<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328</id><updated>2011-08-02T17:48:59.654-07:00</updated><category term='Eschatology'/><category term='Climate Change'/><category term='Culture'/><category term='Miroslav Volf'/><category term='Quotes'/><category term='Community'/><category term='Church'/><category term='America'/><category term='Nationalism'/><category term='Social Justice'/><category term='Jurgen Moltmann'/><category term='Bible'/><title type='text'>Discussions On The Way</title><subtitle type='html'>Some thoughts and musings about life, God, the Bible, theology, people, and the beautiful and wonderful world that we live in</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>11</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-40056516891823827</id><published>2010-01-02T20:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T20:31:21.693-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Manhattan Declaration:  Only Three Issues?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/S0Ac_S4N5WI/AAAAAAAAAWI/Q_LTlOk24t8/s1600-h/scroll.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 239px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/S0Ac_S4N5WI/AAAAAAAAAWI/Q_LTlOk24t8/s320/scroll.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5422365825079043426" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;This Fall, a group of evangelical leaders got together, and on November 20&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;, 2009, they issued the Manhattan Declaration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In doing this, they were hoping to call Christians to action regarding what they regarding as some of the top issues that we as Christians must deal with.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Before I offer my brief critique, let me give you an idea of what it says.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As well, many of my thoughts came from a very well written article that I read recently (&lt;a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/30/the-nazareth-declaration/#dsq-comments"&gt;read it here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Here is the summery of the declaration, as quoted from their website (&lt;a href="http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/the-declaration"&gt;Read the whole declaration here&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;“Christians, when they have lived up to the highest ideals of their faith, have defended the weak and vulnerable and worked tirelessly to protect and strengthen vital institutions of civil society, beginning with the family.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;We are Orthodox, Catholic, and evangelical Christians who have united at this hour to reaffirm fundamental truths about justice and the common good, and to call upon our fellow citizens, believers and non-believers alike, to join us in defending them. These truths are:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel2"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;"&gt;·&lt;span style="font:7.0pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the sanctity of human life&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel2"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;"&gt;·&lt;span style="font:7.0pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel2"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;"&gt;·&lt;span style="font:7.0pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the rights of conscience and religious liberty.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Inasmuch as these truths are foundational to human dignity and the well being of society, they are inviolable and non-negotiable. Because they are increasingly under assault from powerful forces in our culture, we are compelled today to speak out forcefully in their defense, and to commit ourselves to honoring them fully no matter what pressures are brought upon us and our institutions to abandon or compromise them. We make this commitment not as partisans of any political group but as followers of Jesus Christ, the crucified and risen Lord, who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;While I do not deny the importance of many of the individual things they bring up, I have to disagree with the statement as a whole, for several reasons.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;First, they imply that, as Christians in the world today, these are the three big issues.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These are the three things that should be on the top of our agenda.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But are these really the most important things?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As Christians who are called to sacrificially serve and love our world as the Body of Christ, are these what we should be most concerned about?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I absolutely think that we must be engaged in our world, not just in a “spiritual” way but also in a real and tangible way.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, I think this must cover a wide and diverse spectrum of justice and love, not just three issues.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We see throughout out the entire Biblical narrative that God is deeply concerned about justice and caring for the oppressed, and we must, as Christians in the world today, fight for that, wherever it may be found.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We must not place a limit on or rank the issues that are important, especially when they are not explicitly stated in Scripture.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Second, the three things that they see as the top issues, when they unpack them in the Declaration, seem to do much more to support a right-wing political agenda then they do to seek out what the entire Biblical narrative and the history of our faith says should be the most important things for us as Christians.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For instance, the first issue they bring up, the sanctity of life, seems to be almost solely about abortion.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the Declaration, four of the five paragraphs under the issue of the sanctity of life speak about abortion, and while the fifth one does manage to bring the issue to others things, it does little more than to list them as an afterthought.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And the issue of capital punishment is strangely absent (because of course, the sanctity of life means the sanctity of life that we like.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And what did Jesus say about loving our enemies?).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If one of the top issues that Christians are to engage in is the protection of life, should it not be all life, wherever life is being threatened?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If we are truly going to be pro-life, let us be anti-abortion, anti-capital punishment, and anti-war.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I say this as someone that truly believes in the sanctity of life, because I believe that every human being is created in the image of God, and that not one of them is beyond the redemptive love of Jesus.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So let us protect all life, and do so in real and tangible ways, not just with how we vote and what we say we believe.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Along that line, the other two issues are brought up in similar ways, with the dignity of marriage speaking to the current gay marriage debate, and the protection of religious liberty speaking to the supposed “war” against Christians and their ability to fight the other two issues.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While I fully believe in both the protection of marriage and religious liberty, I disagree again on how narrowly defined these two things are.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;First, the protection of marriage seems to be solely about fighting gay marriage.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Let’s not forget that a majority of divorces in this country occur within Christian marriages.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Might we want to pull the log out of our own eye first?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I just do not feel, in our broken and hurting world, and the gay marriage debate is one that we need to place at the top of our list, or the top half of any list that we might come up with.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Second, regarding religious freedom, I would agree more with their statement if it did not refer mainly to American Christians freedom to fight the first two issues in whatever way they want.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Declaration speaks of the “devaluing” of religious language in the media, the schools, and society as a whole, and how this is evil and must be fought.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This does not seem to be religious liberty as much as an attempt to “Christianize” many of our believed institutions.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Many, many places where Christianity has existed have had nothing resembling religious liberty, and Christianity has done just fine.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Christianity does not need the endorsement, or even the consent, of a ruling political power to do what it does.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In fact, the very nature of the Gospel will often put it in direct conflict with any ruling power, because the values of the Kingdom of God will always conflict with many of the values of any earthly kingdom, even if we attach that word which makes a horrible, horrible adjective:&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Christian. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Please do not get me wrong.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I don’t think that the writers and signers of this Declaration meant something wrong by it, or were trying to simply issue a political document.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I truly believe that many, if not most of them, did this based on deep Christian values and experience.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And I do agree with some of it.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I do believe that there are important things in this world that we as Christians must seek to engage and do so with the knowledge, experience, and values that we have found following Jesus.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I just have a problem with narrowing them to such a degree, and failing to fully engage the issues they did include.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I believe, and believe more so every day, that the Gospel is truly powerful and transforming for our world, and not simply in spiritual ways, but in deeply real and tangible ways.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Let us seek how we might bring this Gospel to our world, and how we might do so not simply as individuals, but as the Body of Christ.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Grace and Love.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Luke&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-40056516891823827?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/40056516891823827/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2010/01/manhattan-declaration-only-three-issues.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/40056516891823827'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/40056516891823827'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2010/01/manhattan-declaration-only-three-issues.html' title='The Manhattan Declaration:  Only Three Issues?'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/S0Ac_S4N5WI/AAAAAAAAAWI/Q_LTlOk24t8/s72-c/scroll.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-6028111283549194887</id><published>2009-12-30T00:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-30T00:38:08.232-08:00</updated><title type='text'>America:  Christian Nation?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SzsRFrIU9oI/AAAAAAAAAWA/LgMNW_zkhuk/s1600-h/Cross%2520in%2520Flag%2520-%2520cropped.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 242px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SzsRFrIU9oI/AAAAAAAAAWA/LgMNW_zkhuk/s320/Cross%2520in%2520Flag%2520-%2520cropped.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5420945365645194882" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#0000EE;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="text-align: center;margin-left: 0in; text-indent: 0in; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:#222222;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#222222;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I just read a tremendous article by Bill McKibben on the idea of America being a “Christian nation,” and how, given the way we often live, it is kind of a paradox (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://harpers.org/archive/2005/08/0080695"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Read the entire article here, it is well worth it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;While I have plenty to say about it, I figured I would just quote some of the most poignant points, as he had quite a lot of great things to say.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;So, here are a few excerpts, and I urge you to read the whole article:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#222222;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:#222222;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="Times New Roman&amp;quot;;font-family:&amp;quot;;color:#222222;"&gt;“The gospel is too radical for any culture larger than the Amish to ever come close to realizing; in demanding a departure from selfishness it conflicts with all our current desires.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="Times New Roman&amp;quot;;font-family:&amp;quot;;color:#222222;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:#222222;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="Times New Roman&amp;quot;;font-family:&amp;quot;;color:#222222;"&gt;“Take Alabama as an example. In 2002, Bob Riley was elected governor of the state, where 90 percent of residents identify themselves as Christians. Riley could safely be called a conservative—right-wing majordomo Grover Norquist gave him a Friend of the Taxpayer Award every year he was in Congress, where he'd never voted for a tax increase. But when he took over Alabama, he found himself administering a tax code that dated to 1901. The richest Alabamians paid 3 percent of their income in taxes, and the poorest paid up to 12 percent; income taxes kicked in if a family of four made $4,600 (even in Mississippi the threshold was $19,000), while out-of-state timber companies paid $1.25 an acre in property taxes. Alabama was forty-eighth in total state and local taxes, and the largest proportion of that income came from sales tax—a super-regressive tax that in some counties reached into double digits. So Riley proposed a tax hike, partly to dig the state out of a fiscal crisis and partly to put more money into the state's school system, routinely ranked near the worst in the nation. He argued that it was Christian duty to look after the poor more carefully.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Had the new law passed, the owner of a $250,000 home in Montgomery would have paid $1,432 in property taxes—we're not talking Sweden here. But it didn't pass. It was crushed by a factor of two to one. Sixty-eight percent of the state voted against it—meaning, of course, something like 68 percent of the Christians who voted. The opposition was led, in fact, not just by the state's wealthiest interests but also by the Christian Coalition of Alabama. “You'll find most Alabamians have got a charitable heart,” said John Giles, the group's president. “They just don't want it coming out of their pockets.” On its website, the group argued that taxing the rich at a higher rate than the poor “results in punishing success” and that “when an individual works for their income, that money belongs to the individual.” You might as well just cite chapter and verse from &lt;i&gt;Poor Richard's Almanack&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="Times New Roman&amp;quot;;font-family:&amp;quot;;color:#222222;"&gt;. And whatever the ideology, the results are clear. “I'm tired of Alabama being first in things that are bad,” said Governor Riley, “and last in things that are good.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:#222222;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="Times New Roman&amp;quot;;font-family:&amp;quot;;color:#222222;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="Times New Roman&amp;quot;;font-family:&amp;quot;;color:#222222;"&gt;“It's hard to imagine a con much more audacious than making Christ the front man for a program of tax cuts for the rich or war in Iraq. If some modest part of the 85 percent of us who are Christians woke up to that fact, then the world might change.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="Times New Roman&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;span style="color:#222222;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;“Similarly, a furor erupted last spring when it emerged that a Colorado jury had consulted the Bible before sentencing a killer to death. Experts debated whether the (Christian) jurors should have used an outside authority in their deliberations, and of course the Christian right saw it as one more sign of a secular society devaluing religion. But a more interesting question would have been why the jurors fixated on Leviticus 24, with its call for an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. They had somehow missed Jesus' explicit refutation in the New Testament: ‘You have heard that it was said, ‘an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also.’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-6028111283549194887?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/6028111283549194887/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/america-christian-nation.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6028111283549194887'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6028111283549194887'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/america-christian-nation.html' title='America:  Christian Nation?'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SzsRFrIU9oI/AAAAAAAAAWA/LgMNW_zkhuk/s72-c/Cross%2520in%2520Flag%2520-%2520cropped.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-6380248804233577981</id><published>2009-12-15T11:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-15T11:55:38.184-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Climate Change'/><title type='text'>Global Climate Change:  Christian Action vs. Scientific Debate</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SyfpIbQpRiI/AAAAAAAAAVY/6r4D4xRw6g0/s1600-h/beautiful-nature.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 221px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SyfpIbQpRiI/AAAAAAAAAVY/6r4D4xRw6g0/s320/beautiful-nature.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5415553407902107170" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="text-align: left;margin-left: 0in; text-indent: 0in; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Often the debate over Global Warming has been divisive and brutal.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;People with strong convictions on both sides passionately argue, and even accuse those on the other side of lying, deception, and political games.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The huge underlying question in this debate has not been global warming itself as much as how much our human action has contributed to global climate change.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the last few years, it seems that those who argue that human activity has caused, or at least accelerated, global climate change have been getting the upper hand.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Many reports, articles, and papers have seemed to point decisively to a correlation between humans and climate change (see &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/16/AR2007111602053.html"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GlobalWarming/global-warming-report-finds-time-running/story?id=9159815"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, for a few examples).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;The question that I continue to wrestle with is to what degree we, as Christians, are supposed to enter into this debate. I have seen people within the church be some of the most ardent defenders, and attackers, on both sides of this debate.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But should this debate, and any evidence that is produced by either side, even matter when it comes to caring for our planet?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I just read an awesome article by Greg Boyd (&lt;a href="http://www.gregboyd.org/blog/the-scandle-over-global-warming/"&gt;see it here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In it, he questions some of the assumptions made by those who insist that global warming is happening to the degree that many would like to think.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, his point is not really about climate change itself, but rather that, within the Kingdom of God, none of this should really matter.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To quote him from the article, “Our commitment to live as good stewards of creation and as good caretakers of the animal kingdom shouldn’t be affected in the least by the state of the ever-changing and usually ambiguous scientific or political debate.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;I think this is very well said.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why should some scientific research tell us what we already know as followers of Christ, namely, that we must care for the world in which we have been created to live on?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Whatever the next report says, how we care for creation reflects what we think about its creator. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;We should seek to end the exploitation and destruction of the plants and animals not because there is a new finding that says our human activity is hurting the world, but because that is what we have been called to do as citizens of this planet and of the Kingdom of God.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I want to care for the world that we live on, not because I heard on the evening news that I should, but because as a follower of Christ I have no other option.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-6380248804233577981?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/6380248804233577981/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/global-climate-change-christian-action.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6380248804233577981'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6380248804233577981'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/global-climate-change-christian-action.html' title='Global Climate Change:  Christian Action vs. Scientific Debate'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SyfpIbQpRiI/AAAAAAAAAVY/6r4D4xRw6g0/s72-c/beautiful-nature.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-1041731888934163317</id><published>2009-12-12T00:28:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-12T00:55:51.616-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Taking Christ out of Christmas, or Putting Him Back In?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SyNXQs4LdHI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/G2E_3k2cGv8/s1600-h/merry_christmas.jpg" style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 255px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SyNXQs4LdHI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/G2E_3k2cGv8/s320/merry_christmas.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5414267121465783410" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;It is that time of year again.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The air is cold and crisp.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The hustle and bustle of the holidays is all around.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And those little slogans are appearing on signs and on the lips of people.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No, I am not referring to “Happy Holidays” or “Merry Christmas.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I am referring to the “Keep Christ in Christmas” chant that usually begins shortly after Thanksgiving.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Many vocal, and probably for the most part well-intentioned, people have made it their duty to decry what they see as the removal of Christ from the holiday that so prominently bears his name.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Against the secular tide of holiday cheer they stand their ground, protesting anytime a Christmas tree is taken out of a public place or a simple “Happy Holidays” in muttered instead the proper “Merry Christmas.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now don’t get me wrong, I love the Christmas season.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I think it is a beautiful time for Christians everywhere to celebrate this beautiful and radical and mysterious idea that the God of the universe came down as a little baby, and entered into our human existence.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While we are not supposed to just celebrate this a one time of year, I love that at the Christmas season we can come together and remember what God has done through the powerful act of incarnation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, I have a few problems with the effort that has been put into the “Keep Christ in Christmas” campaign.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;First, can anyone really take Christ out of Christmas?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If this is a time of year for Christians to celebrate the incarnation and the work of God that has come through that, can people simply take that away?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;People can choose not to celebrate Christmas, choose to make fun of it, or even choose to fight having anything resembling it in any public place.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But again, can they take Christ out Christmas?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If your Christ is so easily taken out of Christmas by a few people who have every right not to think about Christmas the same as we do, what Christ are you serving?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I believe that this idea of incarnation that we celebrate at the Christmas season, that God radically and decisively broke into our human existence so that humanity, and indeed all of creation, might be redeemed, is powerful enough to be true no matter how we keep Christmas.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Also, can we as Christians really expect those who are not a part of our faith to keep the Christmas holiday the same as we do?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yes, the holiday began as a Christian holiday and is still considered one.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But if others don’t want to celebrate it like that, who cares?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I am serious, why must we make a big stink when those who are not Christian fail to celebrate Christmas like Christians?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If we want to keep Christ in Christmas, how about we do our best to follow him this season, and remember what he did, and do our best to live as followers of him.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This would involve less talking and more doing, which is usually better when it comes to showing the world our faith.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;This leads to my second problem with the fight to “Keep Christ in Christmas,” which is, we would probably do better if we did our best to live in a way that kept Christ in Christmas rather than going out of our way to point out how people outside the faith are failing to do so.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is the season which we so beautifully celebrate the incarnation, so might we try to live a little more incarnationally?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What if, instead of putting money and effort into signs and slogans, we put that same money and effort into making sure people around us had food for the holiday season?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Or better yet, what if we said no to the soul-killing materialism that plagues the Christmas season and instead provided clothes to people who were cold?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I am not saying don’t buy any presents for friends and family, but rather I am imagining what might happen if we kept Christ in Christmas by radically living out his Gospel in our homes and communities?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After all, it is not our job as Christians to make sure that the culture around us conforms to our way of living, but rather to, in the midst of the wider culture, live out the Gospel of Jesus.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is what it means to live incarnationally, to be willing to enter in to our culture in a real and tangible way and live out the Gospel so that those around us might see the beauty of Christ.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Please let me say it again.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I love Christmas time.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I love everything we as Christians get to celebrate this season.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, in the midst of doing so, let us think how we might truly keep Christ in Christmas.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As we go about our activities this Christmas season, let us be thinking about how we might live more incarantionally.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Let us think how we might tangibly and powerfully live out the Gospel to those around us.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Let us think how we might celebrate with, rather than fight against, those who do not hold the same faith we do or the same ideas about Christmas that we do.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We must remember that Jesus is far bigger than Christmas or any other human holiday or institution that we might place him in.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Christmas is beautiful, but only because we serve a God who is far bigger than Christmas.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Have a wonderful and beautiful Christmas season.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Luke&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-1041731888934163317?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/1041731888934163317/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/taking-christ-out-of-christmas.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/1041731888934163317'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/1041731888934163317'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/taking-christ-out-of-christmas.html' title='Taking Christ out of Christmas, or Putting Him Back In?'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SyNXQs4LdHI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/G2E_3k2cGv8/s72-c/merry_christmas.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-3717119443029776264</id><published>2009-12-02T14:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-02T14:50:38.367-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Miroslav Volf'/><title type='text'>Tension in Two Kingdoms</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt;"The proper distance from a culture does not take Christians out of that culture. Christians are not the insiders who have taken flight to a new "Christian culture" and become outsiders to their own culture; rather when they have responded to the call of the Gospel they have stepped, as it were, with one foot outside their own culture while the other remaining firmly planted in it. They are distant, and yet they belong . . . distance born out of allegiance to God and God's future. . . .  Both distance and belonging are essential. Belonging without distance destroys . . . but distance without belonging isolates." —Miroslav Volf, Exclusion and Embrace&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-3717119443029776264?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/3717119443029776264/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/tension-in-two-kingdoms.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/3717119443029776264'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/3717119443029776264'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/12/tension-in-two-kingdoms.html' title='Tension in Two Kingdoms'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-4333813555841025951</id><published>2009-10-11T12:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-11T12:42:10.160-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eschatology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jurgen Moltmann'/><title type='text'>Hope:  One (Awesome) View</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/StI0yC_IBVI/AAAAAAAAAT0/lgMWXs65Bd0/s1600-h/Sunset_may_2006_panorama.jpg" style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 128px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/StI0yC_IBVI/AAAAAAAAAT0/lgMWXs65Bd0/s320/Sunset_may_2006_panorama.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391429738315646290" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  ;font-family:Times;font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;"If one hopes for the sake of Christ in the future of God and the ultimate liberation of the world, he cannot passively wait for this future, and, like the apocalyptic believers, withdraw from the world. Rather he must seek this future, strive for it, and already here be in correspondence to it in the active renewal of life and of the conditions of life, and therefore realize it already here according to the measure of possibilities. Because this future is the future of one God, it is a unique and unifying future. Because it brings eschatological liberation, it is the salvation of the whole enslaved creation. The messianic future for which Christianity arouses hope is no special future for the church or for the soul alone. It is an all-encompassing future. As all-encompassing future, its power of hope is able to mediate faith to earthly needs and to lead it into real life."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;-- &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  font-style: normal; font-family:Times, serif;font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;search-type=ss&amp;amp;index=books&amp;amp;field-author=Jurgen%20Moltmann" style="text-decoration: none; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#000000;"&gt;Jurgen Moltmann&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-4333813555841025951?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/4333813555841025951/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/10/hope-one-awesome-view.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/4333813555841025951'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/4333813555841025951'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/10/hope-one-awesome-view.html' title='Hope:  One (Awesome) View'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/StI0yC_IBVI/AAAAAAAAAT0/lgMWXs65Bd0/s72-c/Sunset_may_2006_panorama.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-4979696641408196053</id><published>2009-10-03T01:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-03T01:59:40.438-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Re-Imagining Church:  Acts 2 Style</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SscSGGolXzI/AAAAAAAAATs/wv79lBIqOIM/s1600-h/6a00d83451b4dd69e2010537154a31970b-800wi.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SscSGGolXzI/AAAAAAAAATs/wv79lBIqOIM/s320/6a00d83451b4dd69e2010537154a31970b-800wi.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388295375241436978" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Imagine with me for a minute.  Somewhere in America, in a town that is big, yet small at the same time, there is a church community.  At first glance, there is nothing incredibly unique about this community.  They meet together on Sundays, they have a diverse group of people, and most of them spend a good deal of their week either at work or with their families.  But on closer inspection, you begin to notice a few things.  You begin to notice that the people genuinely love each other, and do so during the whole week, not just on Sundays.  You notice that they don’t spend a lot of time in “church”, but out in their community, just being a part of it.  You notice that, even in the midst of hard financial times, no one among them is wanting for the basic necessities.  You notice that they do their best to love their neighbors, both their literal neighbors, as well the Jesus definition of neighbor (which includes, well, everyone).  You notice that, because of many of the things above, that people in their community that have no connection to the church look favorably on the church community, whether or not they call themselves “Christians” or even religious, and some also begin to hang out, recognizing that something really good is going on within the community, and they want to be a part of that.  You also notice, maybe most amazingly, that these are not crazy people in some fanatical commune, but people with relatively normal lives, families, jobs, and lifestyles.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This imagined idea of a church community grew in me as I thought about the small yet powerful section in Acts 2:42-47.  Here (as well as elsewhere in Acts and the letters of Paul) we get a vision of the early church community, a vision that is still powerful today because of the reality of the Gospel.  As people who desire to live out this gospel that Jesus left us, how do we go about it, especially when it seems that the church as a whole seems to fight and squabble about it?  Jesus, when he departed, did not leave a handbook on how to structure the church community, nor did he leave a “to-do” list.  What he left was the Gospel, a way of living within the Kingdom of God, which he himself had lived out among them.  He also left his Spirit to guide the church.  I think it is beautiful that the early church community was not an institution that was left by Jesus, but a community of people empowered by both the Gospel vision of Jesus and the power of the Holy Spirit.  With these two things, they were able to imagine and dream and live out the Gospel in a mighty and powerful way.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Now, some have argued that the church today must get back to the early church model, and do everything just like they did.  The church today has gone too far away from this, they say, and in order for the church to survive, we must do exactly what the church in Acts was doing.  I do agree that the church today does need to rethink some of its practices and beliefs, and that there are certain things that would do good to change.  However, I also recognize that we live in a different time then the people in the book of Acts, and have completely different lifestyles and worldviews then they did.  In this way, I feel that the book of Acts is not a manual for how to do church, but rather a glimpse into a beautiful, Spirit-filled community of the first century that is figuring out how to live out the Gospel with which they have been given within their communities.  Thus we can read the book of Acts as a beautiful, true, and powerful story about the growth of the church, and rather than follow it word for word, use it to re-imagine what that same thing might look like in our own day.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;So what might this look like in regards to Acts 2:42-47?  Let us briefly begin a walk through this narrative, and re-imagine how the truth and beauty of this story might guide us today and we re-imagine how to live the Gospel of Jesus out in our world and in our church communities, using the first verse from this narrative:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;“They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This really shows that the church was all about four things:  Learning together, being together, eating together, and praying together.  First, they were willing to sit under the apostles and learn together.  They recognized that there were those within their community that had been with Jesus and had learned a bunch through those experiences, and wanted to learn from them.  Today, we don’t exactly have anyone that walked on this earth with Jesus, but we do have people in our communities, both those who have chosen to study and learn in order to serve the church, and those who have amazing experiences that are beautiful and transforming, who can serve the church through their instruction and teaching.  At the same time, it is always important to remember that those who serve the church in this way are simply a part of the Body of Christ, and not somehow different or more important than those who feed their neighbors or serve with the kids ministry.  Second, they devoted themselves to the fellowship, the church community.  This was not a collective group of individuals that went and did their own thing, but a group with a community identity, that was devoted to each other.  I think it is so important to re-imagine church at this point, because we live is a culture of rampant individualism.  We have a tendency to be devoted to ourselves first, and our church communities second.  It is so important that our church communities are not simply places we go on Sunday, but a group of people that is devoted to one another.  This is much harder today, with our varied and scattered lives and jobs, but in is no less important, and something that we must fight for and learn how to do better.  Third, they devoted themselves to the breaking of bread.  They ate together.  Something that was a normal part of their everyday lives (if they weren’t living in poverty) had now become an important part of their community.  Church for them did not seem to be a service once a week, but connected even to the most regular daily activities.  Re-imagining this for today, we might look at how we view church during our week.  Is it something we “attend” once or twice a week, or is it something that is intimately connected to our everyday lives, even the most mundane parts?  Eating together can be powerful, as it connects our physical sustenance with the Body of Christ.  How might we re-imagine this in other ways today?  Fourth, they prayed together.  Prayer is also something that, for the most part, has been moved to the realm of the individual.  Sure, we pray in church, but often it is quite short and repetitive.  How might we re-imagine this?  Let’s recognize the power that comes with communal prayer that comes out of a community seeking God.  I am not sure how prayer works or affects God, and I am skeptical of anyone that says they do, but the biblical narrative, as well as my experience, say that people praying together can be powerful.  I think an awesome way we can begin to re-imagine church is to recognize that the people of God praying as a Body can be so much more powerful than all of our models and formulas for how we can do church better.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I hope that this brief example was helping in explaining what I mean by re-imagine.  I know that it was not complete in every way, and that much more might be said about many of the things that came up in that first verse regarding how we do church.  Some might even say that I went too far with some of what I said, wondering were I got some of the things I was talking about, as they clearly were not in that verse, or even in Acts.  That all brings us back to what I was saying before.  I think it is so important to view Acts not as a formula to follow or a checklist to accomplish, but as a story of people who experience God in a powerful way and, with the powerful of the Holy Spirit, went about living in that reality.  And through this story, those of us in the Body of Christ today can learn from the beautiful, messy story in Acts to re-imagine how we might live as the church today.  This is not going to be easy.  Yet, as people empowered with the gospel and living in our crazy and awesome world, it is so important.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="mso-list:none;tab-stops:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="mso-list:none;tab-stops:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-4979696641408196053?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/4979696641408196053/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/10/re-imagining-church-acts-2-style.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/4979696641408196053'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/4979696641408196053'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/10/re-imagining-church-acts-2-style.html' title='Re-Imagining Church:  Acts 2 Style'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SscSGGolXzI/AAAAAAAAATs/wv79lBIqOIM/s72-c/6a00d83451b4dd69e2010537154a31970b-800wi.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-6456568286507065069</id><published>2009-09-01T14:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-01T14:06:21.998-07:00</updated><title type='text'>On Peeing Your Pants and Gospel Living</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/Sp2Mh5oFpII/AAAAAAAAATk/iZnfBtkIx8c/s1600-h/homeless.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 231px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/Sp2Mh5oFpII/AAAAAAAAATk/iZnfBtkIx8c/s320/homeless.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5376608044182774914" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;I worked last year part-time at a local YMCA after school program.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My job basically consisted of making sure 5-35 kids stay safe, have fun, and don’t do things which might possibly make their parents angry.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When all said and done, that can be quite a chore.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, between mediating disputes over Lego creations and getting beat at wall ball by 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; graders, I realized how much there was to learn at my job.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And not just about how to take care of kids, but how to love and serve both God and people.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Helvetica, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;One day, as I was standing watch on the playground amid the chaos that is 30 grade schoolers on a playground, I heard a commotion near the wall ball area.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Kids were screaming and yelling and laughing, which usually meant that I should at least take a look and make sure all was well.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When I got over there, I was shown I nice big puddle on the ground and informed by a few hysterical kids that one of the boys had peed his pants.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And no, it was not an accident, but something he had informed everyone of ahead of time, and done in full view of as many other children as possible.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I looked at the boy, standing proudly over his recent accomplishment.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My boss, who had beaten me to the scene, soon ushered the boy inside, to change and have a nice, long time out.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When we finally sat down and talked with him about why he did this, his answer spoke volumes to me about how we, as followers of Jesus, are supposed to live out the Gospel message in our communities and among hurting, broken people.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Helvetica, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;The boy, who we will call “Sam,” was playing wall ball, when another boy, “Dan,” started playing also.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Sam was a 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; grader, and Dan was a 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; grader.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;During the course of the game, it came to light, through the teasing of some other children, that Dan had peed his pants earlier in the day.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So throughout the game, numerous comments were made about Dan’s accident, and most were not said kindly.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now, Sam and Dan are friends, and most of the children who were making fun of Dan were 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; and 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; graders.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After some time of this teasing, Sam decides to stand up for his friend Dan, and in a moment straight out of the movie Billy Madison, he proceeds to pee his pants in order to make Dan feel better.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When everyone around Dan was making fun of him and putting him down, Sam came over, stood beside him, and with very few words (other than yelling at all the kids to watch), he tangibly showed Dan that he was beside him.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Helvetica, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;As followers of Jesus in the midst of a hurting and broken world, this is exactly what we are called to do.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;All around us are people that are hurt, beat down by the world, and overwhelmed by the craziness of life.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These are people on our streets, in our neighborhoods and communities, and in our churches.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Living out the Gospel does not mean that we simply tell them all to believe in Jesus or pray a little more, but that we come beside them in loving, caring and &lt;i&gt;tangible &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;ways.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We must love and serve them as we are serving Jesus himself.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Think about what Jesus did when interacted with hurt and broken people.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He got near them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He touched them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He talked with them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He asked them questions.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even when doing so broke all social and religious rules, he got near to them (John 4:1-26; Mark 2:13-17, etc.).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He did not throw miraculous healing at them from a distance, but almost always healed by his touch, by being close to people. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Helvetica, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;Think about the women who had been bleeding for 12 years, and was “unclean” by the social and religious standards (Luke 8:40-56).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The community that she was a part of would have excluded her, and according to their religious and social system, they would have been more than justified in doing so.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Think about the story.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After she had fought through a crowd of people in order to touch Jesus, what does he do?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He calls her out.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now certainly everyone would know that an unclean women has been in the midst of them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They would know that she had been in the midst of the crowd, touching who knows how many people.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet, what does Jesus do?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He calls her out, letting everyone know that someone touched him. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;He heals her.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And he heals her in more than one way. Yes, he heals her physically, which is a miracle, but he also heals her in a much more communal way, restoring her, and showing that she has a place within the community.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That is so beautiful. And Jesus did this, not by a long speech or an exposition of the theological reasons that she should be accepted, but by standing beside her in her pain and suffering.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus was well aware of the social and religious reasons that she was not accepted, yet he stood with her anyway.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Helvetica, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;As people who follow Jesus and seek to live his Gospel out in or daily lives, we must learn, as individuals and communities, how to practice standing with those whom no one else will stand with.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We cannot just stand with those we like, or those whose religions, social, and political views match our own.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We can’t be afraid to stand with “sinners,” worried that we might seem accepting of their sin, or worse, called sinners ourselves.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus was called a sinner and a drunkard by the religious community of his day.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What are we really worried about?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now this will not be easy, and we are all bad at this.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Standing with hurt and broken people is hard.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet it is such a vital part the this Gospel we are called to live out.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So let’s begin to learn, together with our communities, how we can be people who “pee our pants” with those around us.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And let us pray daily that God with give us the power and resources to do so, because without Him, we are hosed.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Helvetica, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;Take care and God bless.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Helvetica, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt;Luke&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Helvetica;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-6456568286507065069?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/6456568286507065069/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/09/on-peeing-your-pants-and-gospel-living.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6456568286507065069'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6456568286507065069'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/09/on-peeing-your-pants-and-gospel-living.html' title='On Peeing Your Pants and Gospel Living'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/Sp2Mh5oFpII/AAAAAAAAATk/iZnfBtkIx8c/s72-c/homeless.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-8455227289744922329</id><published>2009-05-29T10:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-05-29T11:17:51.170-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nationalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='America'/><title type='text'>A Bible for America?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SiAmnttIBiI/AAAAAAAAATc/HtNpaSErGMU/s1600-h/pledge-allegiance.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 218px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SiAmnttIBiI/AAAAAAAAATc/HtNpaSErGMU/s320/pledge-allegiance.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5341311621787026978" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I was cruising around some of the blogs I frequent, I came across something that I found quite disturbing.  It seems that Thomas Nelson Publishing is coming out with an American Patriots Bible.  It is a Bible that has stories, articles, quotes, and photos throughout, showing how the Bible is liked to the founding, and formation, of America.  You can view the promo video &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB44hazSQQU&amp;amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fblog%2Echristianitytoday%2Ecom%2Foutofur%2F&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;  Greg Boyd has already written some very thoughtful responses (his review is on the &lt;a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/"&gt;Out of UR blog&lt;/a&gt;, in two parts, &lt;a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2009/05/book_review_the.html"&gt;one&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2009/05/book_review_the_1.html"&gt;two&lt;/a&gt;).  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I agree that the Bible had a role to play in our nation, but I fell that creating a Bible like this can only strengthen the marriage that already is too strong between the Jesus way and the American way.  The Bible has influenced many nations, cultures, and people, even since the letters, stories, and songs in it we first circulated around.  However, it is one thing to say that and quite another to claim that your particular country used that Bible, and because of that, God has blessed your country and look at it in a special way.  While that is not explicitly said in this Bible (it might be, I have not read the whole thing), it is at least implied in the promo video.  But what about the bad things our country has done?  Let us remember that the Bible was mis-used to justify the mass slaughter of Native Americans as well as slavery.  I wonder if those stories are in this Bible?  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am not against the stories about how the Bible has played a role in our country.  I would not have thought twice about a book about that.  But putting those stories in the middle of the Biblical text is at best misguided, and at worse idolatrous.  It helps to reenforce that idea that we are a "Christian Nation," and further the dangerous mixing of nationalism and faith.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let us remember that the Bible, and the amazing story that is contained in it, is something for ALL people, and shows a God that desperately loves all of humanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-8455227289744922329?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/8455227289744922329/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/05/bible-for-america.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/8455227289744922329'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/8455227289744922329'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/05/bible-for-america.html' title='A Bible for America?'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SiAmnttIBiI/AAAAAAAAATc/HtNpaSErGMU/s72-c/pledge-allegiance.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-1631251373079248200</id><published>2009-05-27T19:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-05-28T11:31:17.696-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Community'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social Justice'/><title type='text'>A Different Kind of Culture War</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/Sh3yDUgYyXI/AAAAAAAAATU/Y6PIk4NnBpM/s1600-h/las-vegas-strip.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/Sh3yDUgYyXI/AAAAAAAAATU/Y6PIk4NnBpM/s320/las-vegas-strip.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5340690871989356914" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;I read a quote this week that really made me think.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Allow me to share the quote, as well as a few thoughts I had after reading it.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is from Jud Wilhite, a pastor in Las Vegas.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He was responding to a study that found most people outside of the church find the church hypocritical.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He says:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;“The perception of hypocrisy also emerges when we start fighting the “culture war” – meaning we attack people’s behavioral patterns rather than love them as people.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Or we lobby to legislate morality.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In Las Vegas, where I live, the culture war is over.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We lost.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Let me repeat: WE LOST.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now our calling is to love and accept people one-on-one, caring for them where they are.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Our role is subversive as we carry the light and love of Jesus into the casinos, clubs, and streets of our city.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We’re trying to flip the perception of hypocrisy by being honest and straightforward about our faults and our hope for transformation in Jesus.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And we’re joining our community in a different kind of culture war – one that attacks poverty, crime, addiction, and pain.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We’re active in helping the homeless, we’ve declared war on child hunger in the Vegas valley, and we are showing our faith by our actions, even in imperfectly.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;As people who follow Jesus, we know that there is a lot of pain, suffering, depression, and other things that affect our neighborhoods, communities, and cities.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet so often we go after the symptoms of these things, declaring a “culture war” on those things that we find offensive.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We do what we can to keep less of these “sinful things” from happening in our society, be it through voting, protesting, or avoiding people and places that contribute those things.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In doing this, however good our intentions are, I am afraid that we too easily miss the point.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Let’s imagine that we manage to change our society, and cut the sin in half, what have we done?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We have only made people act as we think they should, and have done nothing &lt;i&gt;inside&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:normal"&gt; of them, which is where true transformation takes place.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I believe something that Jesus said is quite relevant here.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He said, “What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul?” (Matthew 16:26).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What good is it if we have change the behavior of the whole world yet not touched it’s soul?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;We, as the Body of Christ, must be in the “business” of seeing beyond the actions and outward lifestyles of those around us.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We must see people in a deeper and more complex way than that.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These are people who are created in the image of God who are deeply loved by God.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, we have not choice but to treat them that way.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And this is why we must not fight the symptoms within our society, but the root causes of all that we see as “sinful.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And you know what, that is going to be hard.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To find out what those are, we are going to have to be around people, and the more we are around people, the more we will realize that people are much less black and white than issues are.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But I truly believe that the only way to touch our society with the love of Jesus is through relationships with the individuals that make up that society, and the communities that those people make up.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We must be about people, not politics.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I know that phrase has become cliché, but I don’t care, because it is true.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNoteLevel1" style="margin-left:0in;text-indent:0in"&gt;Read the quote above one more time.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This church is not one where the Gospel is simply a message one hears on Sunday morning, but a church where the Gospel in lived out in more ways than you can count, in all aspects of their community.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Serving their community is not a nice side note to the Gospel, it is vital to it.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Heck, I want to be a part of a church like that.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Do you?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-1631251373079248200?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/1631251373079248200/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/05/different-kind-of-culture-war.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/1631251373079248200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/1631251373079248200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/05/different-kind-of-culture-war.html' title='A Different Kind of Culture War'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/Sh3yDUgYyXI/AAAAAAAAATU/Y6PIk4NnBpM/s72-c/las-vegas-strip.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4274774548663740328.post-6029245948203632649</id><published>2009-04-12T16:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-12T16:35:08.823-07:00</updated><title type='text'>My Thoughts this Easter</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SeJ6mdA7x7I/AAAAAAAAAS0/zo29t49E1bs/s1600-h/empty_large.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 319px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SeJ6mdA7x7I/AAAAAAAAAS0/zo29t49E1bs/s320/empty_large.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5323952510547511218" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;As I sit and think about Easter this weekend, I am struck my many things.  Easter is by far my favorite holiday, as we celebrate God’s saving work within humanity coming to its climax.  This weekend is so powerful, as remember Jesus’ death and resurrection in both its historical context as well as its present reality.  Sadly, this beautiful holiday has, like so many before it, been engulfed by the rampant consumerism and materialism that plagues our culture.  One only has to walk through the local store to see the vast amount of goods that the Easter holiday has produced, 99.9% of them unnecessary and quite frankly a waste.  Sadly, many people within the Body of Christ have jumped on this bandwagon, “celebrating” Easter from within the consumer culture.  Well this has been evident at Christmas for some time, it seems all the more disgusting with Easter, as it represents the completion of God’s work which he began (on the planet earth, anyway) with the Incarnation.  Maybe I am making too big of deal about this, but it seems silly to me to celebrate the real, tangible events of the death and resurrection of Jesus, which brought about a whole new way of living in which we live by the values of the Kingdom of God rather than the wider culture that we live in, by buying and consuming.  As I have remembered and pondered Easter this year, I have been more and more struck by the fact that as Christians we are called to live in a way that reflects the values and heart of God, yet we (myself fully included) celebrate the most powerful event(s) that brought about that new reality by participating in a system that makes it worth as much as the commodities that it produces.  While I feel that we (I included) have a way to go in curbing our rampant consumerism and materialism, I feel that Easter is a good place to start.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am all for celebrating, with good food and good candy.  I just want to always keep in mind the most important thing, which is, remembering Jesus.  Let’s remember Good Friday, where the cross, with Jesus on it, stands before us, showing us the Incarnate God who came to bring new life to humanity slowly losing his life in the most painful way possible, and in doing so gained and resounding victory over the evil in this world and make new life possible.  Let us remember Saturday, where there was darkness, but also an uncontainable hope ready to burst forth.  And let us remember Sunday, when Jesus rose again, and with his resurrection was brought the beautiful and powerful reality of a whole new way of living, one that not only reconciled us to God but also reconciled us to each other.  It is this new reality that we live in today, and in this new reality that we look back and celebrate the event, the working of God in history, that made this all possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy Easter everyone.  Have fun.  Stay safe.  And remember.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Christ, Luke&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4274774548663740328-6029245948203632649?l=discussionsontheway.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/feeds/6029245948203632649/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/04/my-thoughts-this-easter.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6029245948203632649'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4274774548663740328/posts/default/6029245948203632649'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://discussionsontheway.blogspot.com/2009/04/my-thoughts-this-easter.html' title='My Thoughts this Easter'/><author><name>Luke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14015287438085158180</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SM7aYW_HI_I/AAAAAAAAAQo/kh8CYEzIsDk/S220/n11522002_31273845_1569.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EAe3iHVlmko/SeJ6mdA7x7I/AAAAAAAAAS0/zo29t49E1bs/s72-c/empty_large.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
